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      Oliver and Mike discuss e-commerce, legacy code, technical debt, automated testing, test-driven development, refactoring, code vs. no-code solutions, and Mike's recent talk at PHP South West in Bristol.

      ## Links

      - [Huboo](https://huboo.com)
      - [PHPUnit](https://phpunit.de)
      - [Laravel](https://laravel.com)
      - [Expression Engine](https://expressionengine.com)
      - [PHPBench](https://phpbench.com)
      - [Working in small batches](http://www.startuplessonslearned.com/2009/02/work-in-small-batches.html)
      - [Cyclomatic complexity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclomatic_complexity)
      - [Shopify](https://www.shopify.com)
      - [Drupal Commerce](https://drupalcommerce.org)
      - [PHP South West](https://phpsw.uk)
      - [Automica labs](https://automica.io)
      - [Mike on LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikekarthauser)
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      <p>Oliver and Mike discuss e-commerce, legacy code, technical debt, automated testing, test-driven development, refactoring, code vs. no-code solutions, and Mike's recent talk at PHP South West in Bristol.</p>
      <h2>Links</h2>
      <ul>
      <li><a href="https://huboo.com">Huboo</a></li>
      <li><a href="https://phpunit.de">PHPUnit</a></li>
      <li><a href="https://laravel.com">Laravel</a></li>
      <li><a href="https://expressionengine.com">Expression Engine</a></li>
      <li><a href="https://phpbench.com">PHPBench</a></li>
      <li><a href="http://www.startuplessonslearned.com/2009/02/work-in-small-batches.html">Working in small batches</a></li>
      <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclomatic_complexity">Cyclomatic complexity</a></li>
      <li><a href="https://www.shopify.com">Shopify</a></li>
      <li><a href="https://drupalcommerce.org">Drupal Commerce</a></li>
      <li><a href="https://phpsw.uk">PHP South West</a></li>
      <li><a href="https://automica.io">Automica labs</a></li>
      <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikekarthauser">Mike on LinkedIn</a></li>
      </ul>
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